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August 1st I posted my thoughts on a recent column from local sportswriter Bob Matthews where he described some current players as "locks" for the Baseball Hall of Fame and also gave his odds for other current stars' chances of making it. He gave Omar Vizquel only 10-90 odds of making it, and in my post I wrote:
"I wouldn't even go that high. He has 10 gold gloves and 357 SB, and likely won't play more than one or two more seasons, if that (hitting .302 so far this year though). He has only been an all-star three times. Compare that with Bill Mazeroski who was a middle-infielder and won 8 gold gloves and was an all-star 7 times, and it took the veterans committee to vote him in. And Vizquel of course doesn't compare with Ozzie Smith, who had 580 SB, 13 gold gloves and 15 all-star appearances."
But there has been some recent debate on this question on a baseball email discussion list that I get (SABR-L). The argument in Omar's favor follows a common pattern: "Person X is in, Person Y is comparable, so Person Y should get in too." In this case, Person X is Ozzie Smith, and Person Y is Omar Vizquel. Leaving aside the debate about the reasonableness (or lack thereof) for this kind of argument approach, I thought it would be fun to go ahead and do some comparing of Omar and Ozzie, and some other similar players as well. First, here are some comparisons made already on the list:Ozzie and Omar -- both switch-hitting shortstops
- Ozzie has 13 Gold Gloves vs. Omar with 10 (+1 likely again in 2006)
- Ozzie .262 BA, Omar .276
- Ozzie .337 OBP, Omar .342
- Ozzie .328 SLG, Omar .360
- Ozzie 1257 runs, Omar 1283
- Ozzie 793 RBIs, Omar 818
- Ozzie 402 2B, 69 3B, 28 HR, Omar 398 2B, 68 3B, 73 HR
- Ozzie 580 SB, Omar 366
Those arguing in favor of Omar note that yes, he has played in a different era, with much higher offensive stats. This definitely cuts into the worth of Omar's (relatively) higher HR numbers, and to some extent his comparable RBI total. For batting average, it very much lessens the difference, as the park-adjusted league batting average for Ozzie was .261, one point less than Ozzie's average, while Omar's league BA is about .270, six points less than Omar's own BA. So Omar has a +5 BA advantage over Ozzie, which is a big change instead of a +14 point direct comparison between them. Doing this with OBP is even more striking, as the league average for Ozzie was only .328 vs. league average for Omar of .340. So instead of Omar's OBP being +5 compared to Ozzie's, it is actually -7 when relativized to the league averages. And we can do the same for SLG, where the league average for Ozzie was .395, but for Omar it is .425. So Omar's comparative advantage here drops from +32 to just +2.
But there are more important things that weigh against Omar in such a comparison. He has far fewer stolen bases, 580 vs. 366. Ozzie's total puts him 21st all-time, while Omar's ranks him only 88th. That is a big difference.
And how about comparative fielding numbers? Omar's .984 FP is a bit better than Ozzie's .978, but importantly they are both +12 compared to park-adjusted league average. But when you look at RF (Range Factor), you can see one of Ozzie's great reasons for fame: his is 5.03 compared to a league average of 4.10, while Omar's is 4.42 compared to a league average of 4.12. Ozzie's is quite amazing and much better than average. I would argue that with greater range comes greater chance for error, because you put yourself in position to make more plays and so might make a few mistakes on those challenging plays and thereby be given a few errors that other, less talented players, wouldn't give themselves the chance to make.
I'll note that neither player has been very impressive during the Post Season. But one exception was Ozzie's 1985 NLCS against the Dodgers, when he went 10-23 (.435), and had a game-winning home run (so rare for him!) off Tom Niedenfuer in the 9th inning of the fifth game. He was named series MVP, although he then tanked in the World Series going 2-23 (.087) against the Royals.
I think it is important to note that Ozzie faired much better in MVP voting than Omar has. He received votes in 6 seasons, and came in second in 1987 (a high offense year), losing to Andre Dawson of the last-place Cubs! Omar has only garnered votes in one year, 1999, when he came in 16th in the vote.
Or how about comparing All-Star appearances? Ozzie was an All-Star an amazing 15 times, versus only 3 for Omar. Yes, Omar had stiff competition in the AL, faced with A-Rod, Jeter, Tejada, and Garciaparra. But still... 15 vs. 3?
I will grant that Ozzie and Omar do have each other as their "most similar batters", using the special equation devised by Bill James for determining this. So that is admittedly quite striking in this debate -- they have a 907 "Most Similar Batting" rating, for what its worth. Then next similar for both is HOFer Luis Aparicio (with Ozzie having a 904 similarity and Omar having a 903). But then (again, for what it is worth), Omar's third most similar is Dave Concepcion (891), while Ozzie and Concepcion are deemed less similar at only 831. Concepcion was a fine player. He did indeed have very similar offensive numbers to Omar (.267 BA, 101 HR, 950 RBI, 993 R, 321 SB). He was an all-star 9 times. He received MVP votes 3 times. And while he "only" won 5 gold gloves, he was up against Ozzie for the second half of his career! He had a .971 FP (compared to .964 for league average), and his Range Factor was a high 4.71 (compared to 4.30 for league average).
And yet, I don't think many people would argue for Dave Concepcion for the Hall of Fame. They certainly didn't vote for him very much... in his first year of eligibility (1994) he got 31 votes (6.79%), then 43 (9.35%), then 63 (13.4%), 60 (12.68%), 80 (16.91%), 59 (11.87%), 67 (13.43%), 74 (14.37%), 56 (11.86%), 55 (11.09%), 57 (11.26%), 55 (10.07%), 65 (12.05%). So while he has managed to stay on the ballot, he isn't coming close to making it, and I think he only has a few more years of eligibility left. Bill Mazeroski was a great-defense middle-infielder who eventually was voted in by the veterans committee, but he regularly got into the 25-40% vote totals before his time ran out, and Concepcion isn't even hitting that mark.
There are also a few intangibles in Ozzie's favor, that no doubt resonated with the HOF voters. His backflips likely didn't hurt him, plus he was host for TWIB (This Week in Baseball) for a few years after he retired. And there is the nickname, "The Wizard of Oz". Plus his ranking 87th on the The Sporting News' list of 100 Greatest Baseball Players (in 1999), his sometimes being hailed as the greatest defensive player ever, and his famous play in his rookie season off the bat of Jeff Burroughs where he reached up and grabbed a ball with his bare hand after it took a crazy bounce. Some or all of these are "extras" in his favor when voters for the HOF cast their ballots, and no such intangible points for Omar come to mind.
A comparison between Vizquel and older good-fielding shortstops who made it to the HOF has also been made. As I noted above, Aparicio has a "Similar batting score" that is quite high for both Ozzie and Omar. And the raw hitting numbers are comparable. But again, Aparicio had far more steals (506) and did so in an era of low SB numbers -- in fact, he led the league in SB nine years in a row (1956-1964)!! He took home 9 gold gloves so that is comparable to Omar, but he was an all-star 10 times, and received MVP consideration 10 times (vs. just once for Omar). So I don't think that comparing Vizquel to Aparicio is close really.
Others of this general type are Reese and Rizzuto. I'll consider Pee Wee Reese first. He has fairly similar offensive numbers, but a bit more HR -- 126, and he hit 10+ seven times compared to just once for Omar. He did have fewer SB (232), though again, the 40s and 50s were low SB years, so Reese led the league in 1952 with 30, and then came in second five other times. Again, he was an all-star 10 times, and received MVP votes an impressive 13 times. He was an important part of seven World Series teams, and hit a respectable .272 in those series combined. And although there were no gold-glove awards to be had back then, his careeer .962 FP is better than league average .958, and his Range Factor of 4.93 is better than league average 4.67. I'll grant that Omar is the better fielder here, but he isn't comparable as an all-around player for HOF consideration.
And then the case of Rizzuto is raised, if a bit reluctantly, since many would agree he should never have gotten into the HOF. He had a shorter career than the others being discussed here (3,000+ few at-bats) so for that reason it is harder to compare him. He did have an oustanding 1950 season, when he hit .324 with 125 runs to take home the AL MVP crown (after coming in second the year before). He was obviously well-thought of, as he was an all-star five times and received MVP votes in 8 different seasons. But I won't discuss him further, as I don't think he is a legit HOFer, and so don't see the point in comparing Vizquel with him in this context.
Another player to compare Omar with here, not mentioned in the SABR posting, is Nellie Fox. Although a 2B instead of a SS, he has a 861 Similar Batter Rating to Vizquel, and did indeed have some superficially similar offensive numbers. His BA is a bit higher though at .288, and not because of his era, as the league average for him was only .264. He didn't hit for power, with just 35 career HR. But he also didn't run much, as he had only 76 career SB -- so that is a major difference between Fox and Vizquel and the others. But he had a ridiculous ability to hit singles and not strike out much: he led the league in singles 8 times and led the league in AB/SO ratio 12 times! In fact, he never had more than 18 strikeouts in a season... now that is impressive! Fox was good defensively, but as the GG was introduced during his career, he only took home three of them. He had a .984 FP (at 2B, not SS) compared to .977 for the league, and a high 5.43 range factor compared with 4.89 for the league. So one can't dispute his defensive resume. And he was an all-star 12 times, and got MVP votes 10 times, including taking home the MVP award in 1959 when he led the White Sox to the World Series, where he then hit 9-24 (.375) in his lone post-season appearance (a losing effort). So here to, on the whole, I don't think Omar's resume compares well.
Although Omar had a fine 2006 season, .295 BA, 24 SB, 10 triples, 88 runs, playing in 153 games, at age 39 I assume he'll only play another year or two. If plays a lot more than that, padding his numbers and HOF resume, then I might change my mind. But for now my view is that Omar is likely not going to be elected to the Hall of Fame (unless perhaps through the veterans committee many years from now), and I don't think he should be elected either.
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